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thenewguy25

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Okay I've been bumping into alot of people that say there's no hell. Some say there's no heaven either. So my question is if there is neither where do we go when we die. Is there a world outside of this one. Where is this written proof of both not existing. Me personally I've always believed in both my faith is strong but I'm a firm believer of ying and yang everything happens for a reason. What's the reason for mankind? Hell has to be real because of spirit and demons. Heaven also because of the angels.Well anyone got an explanation or proof take a stab at it.

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cutiepie007

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Hatred, emptiness, loneliness, ignorance and solitude is my perception of hell and love, joy, peace, companionship, wisdom, understanding and acceptance is my perception of heaven........think about it! Maybe it is not a place, but in actual fact a state of mind.......

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bob_the_bear

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According to the bible (some will disagree)... when a person dies, their body decays and their spirit returns to God who gave it... BUT not "alive", as such -they are not aware of anything until their spirit is again put into a body -this is called resurrection. The FIRST resurrection is when Christ returns (at the "last trump"). At that time, those IN CHRIST from Adam until that time will be raised -the dead first, then the living in Christ. These are called the "firstfruits" -and will live and reign with Christ ON EARTH for a thousand years as immortals (while those humans who live through the tribulation repopulate earth) until the SECOND resurrection -which is after that 1,000 years -it is "the judgment" -when all who have ever lived will be raised and judged according to their works. The judment is not all bad.... I will post supporting scriptures later -have to go eat now!

No man is now in heaven (except Christ)-or what most consider hell -though the word for the grave is sometimes translated "hell". There is a "hell fire" -but no one has been cast there yet.

What will we do forever? Create and inhabit the universe!

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

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Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Paradise is not the same word used to describe where God now is. This refers to the future state of the earth, etc... which, to someone who died that day, would seem the next instant, though he will not have been alive from the time he died until resurrection -also note that CHRIST did not ascend to heaven that day!)

Psa 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing..........

Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Eze 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. (Some will be resurrected flesh for a time)

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

(P.S. I like you Muted -you're gonna be alright someday! You really should get out more, though.)

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