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gamaforce

Joined: 10/10/2009

Reply to: If something can't be proven it doesn't exist. End of story.
Sharky, it is not you who will end the story. Im not being a wise guy right now, but you and I dont have that kind of juice. This is why I believe GOD is real. You can do with it what you will. There are thousands of different species of just about everything including trees, bugs, different types of humans, dogs cats, birds, tigers, bears and the whole living oganisum thing. The keys here are: they can all reproduce even the tress because they have their own seeds, Life is both male and female, even bugs and many plants. The statisical probability of one life form just happening on its own is not possible. Life is not something which can happen from thin air, and its not going to simply crawl out of the mud. There most definately has to be a much higher power. Some people believe man crawled out of a mud hole thousands of years ago too evolve into what we now know as us. Yet no one has ever proved this is possible. No one has ever linked two species. Evolution is still just an unproven theory. What it really is, is speculation about what could have happened buy a young man who was rebelling against his Father who was a preacher in England. This young mans name was Darwin! If you want to proclaim there is no GOD, thats fine with me, but you should have a solid alternative to your aguement.

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RoadWarrior

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Reply to: Sharky, it is not you who will end the story. Im not being a wise guy right no...
true true and backed up with scientific fact, one of my favorite things about science is it just ends up proving God is real, just at a much slowr rate lol, i definately believe Angelic beings mated with the female somewhere along the way, which totally puts us appart from the apes, that's why it is so foggy, they look for this missing link but they won't ever find it, in a nut shell God showed all the ancients how to biuld how to talk, walk, get laid, lol, derr no wonder how else could they have done all those amazing things thousands of years ago, the Univers and it's stars run like a swiss clock, it's so not a mistake or chance or accident,, the proof is so right in front of a non believer but yet they choose to defy God so, so they get what they want, like anyone, ..gotta run be back later for more rebuttles, lol

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jem1987

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That's not proof.

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RoadWarrior

Joined: 11/27/2009

Reply to: That's not proof.
ahhh it just hit me Gemma my friend, to really ask this question to you, tell me what is proof? or what kind of proof would you require to prove it? i think that will make anyone's mind think a bit about the topic. don't you,, ? ok that's 2 questions sorry,,

one more thing, this is really an intrieging topic because like some i really want to know and learn,, i want you to understand that i do not understand or know it all,, i never will and i'm never gonna be close to perfect. but i also promise this i'm a good friend and i only lift my hands to fight in self defence, and i would gladley lay down my life if it meant to protect my family and friends. honest

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jem1987

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People always asks this question, but it's a simple answer. Proof is physical evidence. Something that could stand up in a court of law, really. Something substantial that would show it's undoubtedly true. And in the case of god, you'd want that. Circumstantial evidence wouldn't get you far with the skeptics, you need something concrete. And that doesn't exist, for or against god, mind you. There is no proof that a god DOESN"T exist either.

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RoadWarrior

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Reply to: People always asks this question, but it's a simple answer. Proof is physical ...
very well stated answer i liked it,,

when i say things only to do with this topic most of answers will be spiritually leanred experienced answers, for instance,, concrete evidence, metal, wood cement, an apple, we see it it is their in front of us, but yet is tempory,, subject to change, it will change, melt away and disapear,, concrete eventually will do the same, all objects in the 4 dementional or 3rd dementional world we see with our eyes will eventually go away, it is temporal,, just trying to make you think a little that's all, because you taught me something, not to lash out at people and say cruel things,though i did,, though i may again, if i let someone push my buttons,, ok,, off the subject,, so.. if in theory their is a spirit realm or another demention, say the 5th demention, where say ghosts after death , live" so to speak, ,do you beleieve that,, and the concrete physical evidence thereof, which we all seen hundreds of authentic photos with spirit people in them,, :) :( ?

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*Sliver!*

Joined: 4/25/2005

If you can't prove something does or doesn't exist then it doesn't exist.


You can believe all you want, you're believing in nothing and I feel sorry for you.



I at least believe in myself. You can't do that obviously.

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gamaforce

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Reply to: People always asks this question, but it's a simple answer. Proof is physical ...
There is a world of proof for the exsistance of GOD, and none for the athiest!

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*Sliver!*

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You want proof of an atheist, here I am.



I am an atheist and I exist. Are you God? If not, you don't have a point.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: You want proof of an atheist, here I am. I am an atheist and I exist. Are...
If there were no God, there would be no atheists.

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*Sliver!*

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Hmmm no. You can't prove to me that God created people, you can't prove to me that people didn't always exist.



Not a valid arguement. Sorry.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: Hmmm no. You can't prove to me that God created people, you can't prove to me...
You have the mentality of a four year old when it comes to a debate! So I'll play your game. Tell me all knowing Forum Nazi, With all of your wisdom, Prove he didn't create us? Please share your "infinite wisdom" with the rest of us.

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*Sliver!*

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You know there's no proof that "God" created anything so I can't prove that he didn't.


You need to prove that he did.


You all seem think you're so high and mighty and taken care of because you believe in God. That's a crock of shit. Feel like telling me why this so called God allows babies to be beaten and raped and get cancer?


Or are you going to tell me your God doesn't do that? That it's the Devil who causes that kind of shit to happen? It happens everyday, does that mean the Devil rules the world?


You're going on what some fucked up church has drilled into your heads and it's horribly sad.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: You know there's no proof that "God" created anything so I can't prove that he ...
Ill repeat the question AGAIN Forum Nazi, This time please try to answer it as an educated adult, without reverting to how a child would answer throwing insults in to get the point across because they have no answer but feel the insults solidify their argument.


It's a shame your parents never taught you to never speak with a mouthful of shit!! If they had, you'd not be looking so ignorant.

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*Sliver!*

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No, now you are to answer MY questions. Can't do it can you? Where am I acting like a child? I'm simply asking you to give me proof. Otherwise you're just stating bullshit. If anyone is being a child it's you by calling me "The Forums Nazi"


However it's true, we all know I run this shit. If I don't post neither does anyone else.



You're not better than me because you're a fucking Christian, so you might want to quit thinking you are.




You know I'm right and there's no way in hell you can prove me wrong.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: No, now you are to answer MY questions. Can't do it can you? Where am I acti...
ooooh, more four year old tactics.

Forum Nazi wrote:

You're not better than me because you're a fucking Christian, so you might want to quit thinking you are.

My reply - In fact, it is YOU who thinks they are better than everyone.If people don't have the same views as you, you deem it necessary to call them stupid etc. Your ability to have an open, educated debate, without name calling, is highly lacking. All your tactics prove how much of an ignorant,insecure,adult you have transformed into. Personal attacks on your opponent are an admission of intellectual bankruptcy.

Forum Nazi wrote:

You know I'm right and there's no way in hell you can prove me wrong.

My reply - If there is in fact a hell, as you stated above, why is it there's no heaven?

AGAIN, let's have an adult debate, State your facts as to why God does not exist, without resorting to the childish name calling to prove it. Using one of the Forum Nazis favorite childish quotes on herself " BETCHA YOU CAN"T DO IT"



P.S. Still waiting for the Forum Nazis cronies to be called in and help her.

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*Sliver!*

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I already told you there's no proof that he does not exist.


You need to give proof that he does exist. It's not on me it's on you. I'm also still waiting for my questions to be answered as to why your God allows innocent children to suffer.


Why are you avoiding those?


Oh and btw, if anyone does come to 'Help me" it's because they can actually understand my points. Unlike you who is determined to not like me for whatever reason that is not important to me or anyone else. I could give all the substantial facts in the world on any topic and you'd tell me I'm wrong.


Where's your maturity? I asked you questions and you're refusing to answer them by reverting to calling me 'The Forums Nazi" and claiming I'm immature.


I don't think I'm the immature one here kiddo.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: I already told you there's no proof that he does not exist. You need to give ...
"" You need to give proof that he does exist. It's not on me it's on you. I'm also still waiting for my questions to be answered as to why your God allows innocent children to suffer.""

Without evil there would be no need for good. To put it in relative terms you can understand, Why is it when somebody posts a question on the forums you take it upon yourself to crucify them with a smart ass remark? Some people thrive on thinking they have power over other human beings. Hence children and other humans are made to suffer, God has nothing to do with it, it's a human that causes it and up to humans to derail it. Trials and tribulations.

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*Sliver!*

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If God has nothing to do with it, then that right there is proof that there is no God.



People make their own decisions. No "God" helps them along the way. That's all there is to it.

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RoadWarrior

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Reply to: You know there's no proof that "God" created anything so I can't prove that he ...
men and woman do evil things like rape and hurt children, God gave mankind free will, if not we would be robots, we are not robots, the indians call him Granfather, "the Great Spirit and the creator,, he truly is, all the rotten things that people do they will have to answer for that in the judgment day, christians don't understand it all or anyone dosen't that';s not what the argument is about or proof God never will prove himself to a human no more than you can stand on the surface of the sun without evaporating, and no your nopt listening and don't get it, were not saying we don't believe in ourselves and your as piece of crap, never did say that, your intepreting it that way, myself i am never better than you! nor am i any less than you, whether God existed or exists or not when someone sais i believe in myself "only" it is a form of blastfemy they put themselves above God saying they are better than anyone else and worth more,, no one's life is worth more than anybody elses, you have a PHD in finger pointing, your pointing the finger at everyone else,, even other aithiest people, your angry, at the very thing that you purpously don't believe in, the creator god, i would have to say someone did you wrong,, a peron" hurt you emotionally, abused you in some sourt of way that is no one's business here in a forum hall, never the less, you will never get rid of your own pain or resentments without giving them to a higher power, never you will try like hell but it will fail,, because again wether their is a god or not, the universe is endless and ahuman is an end, a "finite being" the universe is "infinite" which means, a person all by themselves without allowing somthing from the outside be it another athiest person,. or God,, or an animal, or a lighbulb, we alone remail locked up and empty, i know you'll hear what i am saying if your honest with self, ,, and for the most part if their is no God (which i believe in) a follower still betters themseves and has principals to follow which make them succeed where a non believer will always fail,, hard pill for the ego to swallow, but it is still a fact,, on paper,, statistics of hospitals with cancer patients dying from cancer, they took a poll, "fact" those who believed in some sourt of a higher being walked out of those hospitals healed from their cancer, those that did not have any faith or hope,, died.. that is the truth look it up for yourself.. i can see that some people just want to fight they don't want peace they are filled with anger and hate, which is evil,, evil spelled backwards is live,, it makes sence,

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*Sliver!*

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You really need to break that up into paragraphs.

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soulsearching

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Reply to: I already told you there's no proof that he does not exist. You need to give ...
Your name of the Forum Nazi was earned by you. You're the one that thinks their the almighty here. Actually, it fits you well !

Forum Nazi wrote:
I could give all the substantial facts in the world on any topic and you'd tell me I'm wrong.

Reply - If you were wrong I would tell you, however I would not be ignorant enough to do so without researching the topic from both views. Therefore, I could present my facts in the debate VS. name calling and belittlement as you resort to.

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RoadWarrior

Joined: 11/27/2009

Reply to: You really need to break that up into paragraphs.
lol i know someone else said that too, ,, i will next time, just rushed cuz i gotta run out of here for an appointment.

definately paragraphs next time hehe,, later aligator :P

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*Sliver!*

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Reply to: Your name of the Forum Nazi was earned by you. You're the one that thinks their...
Yet you're the only one using the name calling and belittlement.



T his isn't about me. You're the one making it about me.

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soulsearching

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PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You turn every post to "about you". Hence "Forum Nazi".

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